During the video killer Sean Toal and Scott Forbes told many outrageous lies.
The following is some dialogue between the pair of innocence fraudsters;
So the police are now driving people about
They’ve been over the wall of a crime scene
Come on anybody with any..
Scott Forbes
Is this the local police then
Sean Toal
Aye started off with the local police and then Dobbie and that arrived
He was a detective superintendent for Edinburgh
Scott Forbes
But this time the place have already let..
Sean Toal
Aye they’ve allowed people to go home covered in Jodi’s blood
Scott Forbes
And what was Dobbie’s answer to that
Sean Toal
Ah he just says ach we’ve carri.. our investigation was the finest police work that we’ve ever carried out
Scott Forbes
So there’s people there that have been involved in finding the body
They’re covered in blood
They don’t get questioned
They get drove about Dalkeith and then they pick on Luke
Sean Toal
Detective chief superintendent Craig Dobbie was not appointed as senior investigating officer until gone 03:00hrs, by which time all the family members had left the scene.
And no one was “covered in blood” like killer Sean Toal stated!
This is another intentional bare faced lie!
Alice Walker was the only person to have gone near her grand-daughter Jodi Jones’ body and Alice had said she might have touched her grand-daughters forehead.
The intentional bare faced lie about Alice Walker “cradling” her grand-daughter body was started by sadistic murderer Luke Mitchell!
Janine Jones, Steven Kelly and Alice Walker were driven directly to Newbattle police station, they were not “droveabout” Dalkeith like killer Sean Toal stated and they didn’t go home until after they had been at the police station – where they were asked questions.
Pages 806 and 807 of Janine Jones’ trial testimony describes some of what happened in the early hours of the morning of 1st July 2003;
Tap on the button below to read more, directly from trial transcripts;
Scammer Sandra Lean and her former boyfriend, un-convicted baby killer Billy Middleton were involved in killer Sean Toal’s public relations innocence fraud spin campaign:
In reality – killers Sean Toal and Luke Mitchell had been cohorts since at least 2010.
Sandra Lean has remained (publicly) silent since her bare faced lies, disinformation and misinformation are being exposed by trial transcripts but she recently commented on murderer Sean Toal on Facebook;
Nicola Brennan, who was referred to in Part 296here commented on Sandra’s post;
Whilst over on X Heather Brunt, who was referred to in Part 288here also tweeted on killer Sean Toal – commenting on how fraudster Scott Forbes “worked on his case”;
Tap on the button below to read more about fraudster Scott Forbes;
Killer Sean Toal also refers to himself as Social Sessions on various social media platforms, as well as @seanaldo1985 on X.
Social Sessions tweeted Neil MacKay on the 4th December 2023;
Neil MacKay was involved in the fraudulent 2021 channel 5 TV show Murder In A Small Town. Neil MacKay was referred to in Parts 261 and 265 of this ongoing blog series, both of which can be read by tapping on the buttons below;
On the 7th December 2023 killer Sean Toal asked John Halley to message him.
John Halley was arrested in March 2023 for sex offences (Read more here) and had also been promoting scammer Sandra Lean’s nonsense on social media, although he too has recently gone quiet on this.
Again – since trial transcripts have been published, Sandra Lean has remained silent
Tap on the button below for links to trial transcripts;
Liar and scammer Sandra Lean stated on the 23rd July 2023 on actual, factual guilty murderer Luke Mitchell;
..a 35 year oldman
Who has never driven a car
Let me see I’ve got a list of what he’s never done
He’s never driven a car
Had a legal drink
Had a job
Shopped for his own needs
“Shopped For His Own Needs”
Chris Taylor and Harry Williamson’s 17thJune2023 article for the Scottish Sun here headed;
evidenced killer Luke Mitchell shopping “for his own needs” and contained many quotes of statements made by the killer including the following;
I visited a few shops — bought some toiletries, bought some games, bought some food
Sadistic killer Luke Mitchell
Had An Illegal Drink
Killer Luke Mitchell may not have had a “legal drink” but he most definitely drunk illegally before he was sent to prison.
There are photographs online of killer Luke Mitchell’s bedroom with bottles of alcohol clearly visible on the top shelf of his pine unit, as can be seen in the copy of the photograph below next to Beavis and Butt-Head;
Sandra Lean also stated;
Isn’t it amazing how quickly we forget
Sandra Lean – 23rd July 2023
A Few Days After Killer Luke Mitchell’s 2003 Police Interview
Sandra Lean might want to remind herself of Grace McLean’s 22nd January 2005 Daily Mail article headed “I’msimplynotanormalteenager: EXCLUSIVE: Luke Mitchell’s chilling boast to the Mail“.
Journalist Grace McLean first met with killer Luke Mitchell and his mother Corinne Mitchell a few days after his section 14 interview which took place on the 14th of August 2003.
Grace McLean stated;
Iinterviewed Mitchell months before he had been charged with the murder of Jodi, and days after he had been questioned by detectives hunting for her killer
Grace McLean
Grace McLean also met with killer Luke Mitchell “four weeks” before he was arrested in April 2004.
It appears killer Luke Mitchell orchestrated their meeting.
What is clear is that around this time the killer and his mother were courting the media, as is also evidenced by the Sky TV interview on the day of Jodi Jones funeral with James Matthews.
A copy of Grace McLean’s article has been reproduced below;
THE words coming out of his mouth were enough to chill the heart.
His voice flat and emotionless, Luke Mitchell was describing to me the moment he discovered the body of his girlfriend, mutilated and abandoned on the muddy earth.
For the schoolgirl who died an unspeakable death, horrifically mutilated, there was no expression of love from Luke Mitchell – and no tears.
This was Luke’s story in his own words – the account the jury never heard as the teenager never gave evidence during his trial.
“My torch lit up the path like daytime and I was about 12 yards from Jodi when I saw her lying there” he began.
“She was so white. Her throat had been slit and her head was to the side.
“Her eyes were staring up at me and she was naked but for a pair of socks, I think… no, she wasn’t wearing anything. Her body was so white and she was just staring and staring.
‘”I shouted to the others but I couldn’t tell them I’d found Jodi because I didn’t want to upset her gran, but she said she wanted to come over the wall.
‘The others held her back but she scrambled over the wall and said if her granddaugher was there she wanted to be with her.
“She sat down beside Jodi and cradled her in her arms.
I guess the family are suspicious of me because my dog Mia was the one who found Jodi and I was the one who first saw her lying there”
I interviewed Mitchell months before he had been charged with the murder of Jodi, and days after he had been questioned by detectives hunting for her killer.
Aged 15 at the time, the Luke Mitchell in front of me was an adult in everything but name.
Chain smoking and dressed in baggy jeans and a dark-coloured T-shirt, he exuded confidence bordering on arrogance.
Yet all the time his eyes flicked towards his mother Corinne, as if seeking reassurance from the woman with whom he obviously had an extra-special bond.
Mitchell and his mother were like a well-rehearsed double act.
As Corinne Mitchell ranted about the unfair treatment of her son, Mitchell would pace the floor as he vented his anger at the way the police had dealt with him.
Then his mother would touch him lightly on the arm and he would, as if by magic, calm down.
And as he gave his version of his whereabouts the night Jodi was brutally murdered, he constantly looked to her for reassurance, particularly when recalling the time he left the house to meet his girlfriend and the time he went on to meet his friends.
In the first moments of meeting Mitchell I was struck by how confident he was.
After a day at school he knew he was about to meet a journalist, but he walked into the room with a nonchalant air.
As I shook his hand, he gave me a cursory glance before sitting in a chair diagonally across from his mother.
It was clear he was a very sexually aware young man. I immediately felt uncomfortable as his eyes slowly looked me up and down. Mitchell may be a child but his sexuality, arrogance and misplaced maturity make him appear far older than his tender years.
There were a few flashes of childlike behaviour. But they only came as he was distracted by Mia – the dog he claimed picked up Jodi’s scent and led him to her body.
As his story unfolded, it was clear he was a master of manipulation. His story was just too word-perfect. It was also, as has now transpired, a tissue of lies.
This was a 15-year-old who never buckled once during interviews with some of Scotland’s most experienced policemen. The more police pushed him, the more arrogant he became.
He boasted to me: ‘After a few hours I told them, “charge me or let me go”.’
Mitchell leaned forward in his chair and stared intently at me as he told me how police had made his life ‘a misery’ and how they tried to relate to him through stories of rap star Eminem, shock rocker Marilyn Manson and pop singer Holly Valance.
He said: ‘The cops asked me about my relationship with Jodi’s friend Laura.
They kept asking me about the Eminem song Kim, the song where he fantasises about killing his wife.
“They asked me about the follow- up song in which Eminem sings about the “two of us”, meaning him and his daughter. They asked me about Laura and if I wanted it to be just the two of us and asked if that was why I killed Jodi”
“It was all rubbish. Jodi and I would still be together if she was here today”
Detectives were astonished by how arrogant Mitchell was during interviews. Even when confronted with evidence he remained defiant.
He seemed to realise police were trying to relate to him as a teenager and find some kind of common ground.
However, as Mitchell saw himself as an adult, he found the tactic amusing and gained a sense of confidence as the interrogation went on.
Mitchell took to pacing the floor again as he told me how he had ‘got really mad’ with police.
Clenching his fists he said: ‘I started to get really mad after about four hours and asked them to charge me if they had anything to charge me with.’ It was clear Mitchell enjoyed playing cat and mouse with detectives. He said: ‘ One copper stood, looked me straight in my face and said, “We’ve got you. We found your semen on her bra.
We’ve found sperm similar to yours.” I laughed and said, “If it’s similar, it’s not the same then, is it?” ‘ He told how detectives showed him a video reconstruction of how it would have been impossible for him to see Jodi’s body in the dark woods with only a torch – implying he must have known exactly where she was lying.
He said: ‘Jodi’s body was replaced with a tailor’s dummy and I pointed out to police that I could see a limb. That’ s when they switched the video off.’
But then, chillingly, he revealed that he, Jodi and their friend Laura had been talking about funeral arrangements a few nights before the murder.
He said: ‘What happened to Jodi was so ironic because the Thursday before she died we were all talking about what records we would want played at our funeral.’ I could picture him that night, talking in the bedroom with Jodi – taking a perverse pleasure in knowing the fate that awaited her.
He said police took a lock knife from him after being tipped off by friends.
But he added:
‘The bloke who said this is a fantasist. Another of his friends told police Jodi and I were arguing all the time. But that’s not true. We never had a cross word”
Mitchell also denied he was taunting police when he left a note with flowers for Jodi which quoted from Kurt Cobain’s journals:
“The finest day I ever had was when tomorrow never came”
He said: “The only reason I left it was because she loved that line. I wanted to be with Jodi and nobody else”
It was the first time in our interview that Mitchell spoke of any affection for Jodi.
But then, to change the subject, he spent ten minutes talking about newly learned computer skills – just like any other teenage boy – before asking his mother for the keys to her 4×4 Land Rover.
Then, nonchalantly, he walked outside, started up the engine and drove at high speeds around nearby waste ground.
It seemed, yet again, that Mitchell was playing at being an adult.
When he returned, he told his mother he was going to see his friend Laura and, since it was on my way, I offered to give Mitchell a lift.
In the car, he said very little about Jodi, continuing to talk about his computer course. When the car came to a standstill, he leaned over and gave me a hug before jumping out.
Just four weeks later, he was arrested for Jodi’s murder.
I truly believe Mitchell thought he could get away with it.
As we parted, he couldn’t resist having the final word.
A last gesture, and his last chance to goad the police:
“I was never going to break down in public – I’m not that kind of bloke”
“They made a mistake and thought I was just a normal teenager”
By Grace McLean for the Daily Mail article headed I’msimplynotanormalteenagerEXCLUSIVE: Luke Mitchell’s chilling boast to the Mail dated 22nd January 2005
Driving His Mother Corinne Mitchell’s 4×4 Land Rover & Had A Job
Not only had killer Luke Mitchell driven before he was sent to prison he also “had a job”.
He worked for his mother Corinne Mitchell and grandmother Ruby Guetta at Scott’s caravans in Mayfield.
Scammer Sandra Lean has previously acknowledge this fact, including in 2015 here, where she stated about the killer;
When toxic types can’t control the way you see yourself, they start to control how others see you; they play the martyr while you’re labeled the toxic one.
A smear campaign is a preemptive strike to sabotage your reputation and slander your name so that you won’t have a support network to fall back on lest you decide to detach and cut ties with this toxic person.
They may even stalk and harass you or the people you know as a way to supposedly “expose” the truth about you; this exposure acts as a way to hide their own abusive behaviour while projecting it onto you.
In 2013 charlatan and fraudster Sandra Lean learned that killer Simon Hall had committed a burglary with his work colleague Jamie Barker in Ipswich on 16th December 2001, before driving back to Capel St Mary to commit his murder.
In an email to Stephanie (Hall), referring to “the way you handled Simon’s confession to the other burglary” Sandra Lean stated in part;
While I appreciate that fighting a MOJ is an uphill struggle, and a steep learning curve, there are some “mistakes” which cannot be explained as ignorance, enthusiastic but misguided belief, or any of the other well trodden routes most people take on their journey towards justice.
I personally believe that your recent online behaviour, the way you handled Simon’s confession to the other burglary…
The letter, supposedly from Simon, was a disgraceful slap in the face to many, many people who have tried to help Simon over the years.
Sandra Lean – 3rd February 2013
Did Sandra Lean know of other burglaries committed by killer Simon Hall? What “other burglary” was she referring to?
What Sandra Lean perceived as “mistakes” was in fact killer Simon Hall’s guilt and innocence fraud , and the fraud of others, being exposed.
Sandra Lean omitted the Zenith Windows burglary from her innocence fraud narrative in her 1st discredited book No Smoke: The shocking truth about British justice. She also chose to omit making reference to it in her second innocence fraud book Innocents Betrayed.
Tap on the buttons below to read more on the burglary;
Following his suicide in February 2014, Sandra Lean told Stephanie (Hall) she would be withdrawing her 1st innocence fraud book No Smoke from sale. She also said she thought killer Luke Mitchell was guilty after-all and that she had “wasted 10 years” of her life.
Sandra Lean “Clutching At Straws” In Desperate Attempt To Save Herself & Her 2017 ‘Preemptive Strike’
In January 2017 Sandra Lean had still not withdrawn her now discredited book, so she was asked here when she was going to do so.
In response Sandra Lean stated in a “preemptive strike” in an attempt to sabotage Stephanie (Hall’s) reputation and slander her name, to save her own reputation;
If it helps, I can give a synopsis of what the revision to the Simon Hall chapter in No Smoke would have comprised, and why:
“In August 2013, it was reported that Simon Hall had confessed to the murder, in what many considered questionable circumstances, after ten years of maintaining his innocence. Some observers (including Simon’s family) expressed concerns about Simon’s mental health immediately prior to, and at the time of, the confession (a suicide attempt in the months before, for example.)
The confession and the circumstances in which it was made, have never been made public. There were other suicide attempts, the last being in February 2014, when he was found dead in his cell. The confession, whether reliable or not, does not alter the fact that the case on which the conviction was founded was extremely weak, and fell far below the standards most of us would expect when a life sentence is the potential outcome of proceedings.
There can be no doubt that the confession shocked those fighting claimed cases of Miscarriage of Justice, and raised serious questions about whether those fights should continue. However, where the fight is based on the evidence of the case as used at trial and in subsequent appeal proceedings, and that evidence is not robust enough to justify the convictions obtained, then the fight must continue, in the name of true justice.
We will never know if Simon Hall’s confession was genuine, or the confused utterings of a crumbling sanity. The decision about whether to take up, or continue to carry, the baton for claimed Miscarriages of Justice is a matter for the person deciding to do so, and their own conscience.”
You see, to this day, we have only Stephanie’s word about the circumstances leading up to the confession, the circumstances of the confession itself, the state of Simon’s mental and emotional well-being (or otherwise), the content of the confession etc.
As can be seen by Sandra Lean’s above 2017 statement, she was “clutching at straws” in an apparent attempt at saving herself and was prepared to lie in an attempt to keep her fraud going.
Note how she omitted to mention anything in her gaslighting blurb (above) about the Zenith Windows burglary she had referred to in her February 2013 email.
Not only was Sandra Lean prepared to continue lie in an attempt to keep her and killer Simon Hall’s fraud going, in October 2018 she published a second innocence fraud book in which she stated;
Over the next four years, I studied everything I could find, often sitting up until late into the night, reading case papers, websites, legal documents and articles.
I made contact with others claiming wrongful conviction and studied their campaigns to have their cases re-examined.
Layer by layer, my belief, trust and confidence in the CJS evaporated.
This was something so much bigger and so far removed from anything I had ever experienced that, for the first time, I was truly afraid.
If this had all been going on for all these years and I had been utterly oblivious to it, what else might I uncover if I kept looking?
But it was too late – already, I could not un-know what I knew and I could not walk away.
A wrong was being done – a humungous, unbelievable, inexplicable wrong, which was repeating itself up and down the country, crushing family after family – it was a wrong that had to be put right and, I believed, anyone who could do anything to help had to do what- ever they could.
The piles and piles of documents I amassed in my search for answers somehow turned themselves into a book; No Smoke, the Shocking Truth about British Justice, which highlighted seven cases of convictions where the evidence either clearly pointed to someone else or was so flimsy that it would not have passed a “slight doubt” test, far less “beyond reasonable doubt” standard.
Excerpts by Sandra Lean from page 19 of IB
Just like in the case of killer Luke Mitchell, Sandra Lean did not attend killer Simon Hall’s trial.
She had no idea of all the evidence led during either killers trials.
Sandra Lean was not aware of the Hall family dynamics nor had she seen all of the case papers and she was not aware of the Hall family secrets – some of which were exposed in 2013/14.
Heather Lungley may think that Sandra Lean has some credibility because she appeared on a TV show in 2021, which promoted the propaganda of a convicted killer.
However Heather, and others, may wish to think about the very real innocence fraud phenomenon, as opposed the outdated “miscarriage of justice” phenomenon – because Sandra Lean has no integrity and most definitely is not a reliable source.
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