Killer Luke Mitchell: Copies Of (Poor Quality) Newspaper Articles From 2004/05

Killer Luke Mitchell: Could David Wilson ‘Suffer’ From Hybristophilia? (Part 176)

To Commit An Outrage Against Someone

Photo of David Wilson from the Herald

The word hybristophilia was apparently derived from the Greek word hubrizein meaning “to commit an outrage against someone” and seemingly links back to a man called John Money who is said to have been a pro-pedophile pervert.

Hybristophilia appears to have been bastardized over the years and was used by David Wilson in a November 2021 article he wrote for the Daily Record headed We need to stop our caged killers getting fan mail from groupies where he stated in part;

Having worked with a number of high profile, media-savvy offenders in prison I became immediately aware of the phenomenon known as hybristophilia – the sexual interest that some women have for those who have committed violent crimes. 

Last month the Danes introduced a law to ban life-sentenced prisoners from receiving fan mail from new pen pals, and limiting their contact to friends that they had had before they were convicted for the first 10 years of their sentence.

As the Danish justice minister Nick Haekkerup said when introducing the bill, convicted criminals “should not be able to use prisons as dating centres, or media platforms.”

Excerpt by David Wilson from a Daily Record article headed We need to stop our caged killers getting fan mail from groupies dated 29th November 2021

Danish justice minister Nick Haekkerup also stated around the time;

We have seen distasteful examples in recent years of prisoners who have committed vile crimes contacting young people in order to gain their sympathy and attention

This must obviously be stopped

Excerpts from a Guardian article by Jon Henley headed Denmark to outlaw life sentence prisoners starting new romances dated 21st September 2021

In response to David Wilson’s article Innocence Fraud Watch tweeted the following;

What David Wilson @ProfDavidWilson omits to mention in his @Daily_Record article is the ‘fan mail’ of these killers also includes letters from lawyers, students, criminologists, authors, journalists & others

Do these individuals also suffer from the ‘hybristophilia’ phenomenon?

Cammilla Kurstein was a 17 year old schoolgirl who appears to have been exploited and groomed by psychopathic killer Peter Madsen after she apparently wrote to him wanting ‘to know what happened in the man’s head’

Interested to know why you would appear to attach the ‘hybristophilia’ phenomenon to a 17 year old school girl yet seemingly discount it (Or not recognise it) in some lawyers, students, criminologists, authors & journalists etc. who also write letters to killers

Excerpts by Innocence Fraud Watch here

‘Media Savvy’ Convicted Killer Luke Mitchell & His Vile Crimes

David Wilson has seemingly done a 180 degree turn on his “…convicted criminals ‘should not be able to use prisons as dating centres, or media platforms’ spiel in the past few days, and has added his support to 14 year old Jodi Jones killers fraudulent public relations (PR) campaign and written a bizarre article for the Scottish Herald.

In his article David Wilson made the following barmy statement;

..there is literally nothing – nothing – I could uncover that warranted Luke even being charged with Jodi’s murder, never mind being sent to trial

Excerpt by David Wilson for The Herald dated 12th April 2023

In January 2005 Rosalind McInness wrote an article for the BBC headed A uniquely hard case in which she referred to some of the difficulties reporters faced reporting on teenage killer Luke Mitchell’s 42 day trial.

This included ‘protecting vulnerable participants’, like the other young teenage girls who gave evidence about the violent assaults they had suffered at the hands of the then future killer..

After his murder trial, it came to light that other young girls had been threatened with a knife held to their throats by Luke Mitchell – who clearly had an undiagnosed conduct disorder with callous-unemotional traits.

Tap on the below link to read about some of the facts which came to light regarding the killers apparent undiagnosed conduct disorder with callousunemotional traits;

When Luke Mitchell decided to commit his murder on the 30th June 2003, he ‘repeatedly struck’ Jodi Joneson the head and body, compressed her throat and restricted her breathing and caused her to fall to the ground’.

He took one of his knives (thought to be a brown handled folding Jack Pyke knife or ‘something of this ilk’) and slashed Jodi Jones throat, ‘cutting the main artery in her neck seven-eights of the way through’.

Jodi Jones ‘jugular vein had also been cut right through and the main nerve had also been nicked’. The knife ‘slash’ had ‘gone through all three structures’, and according to Professor Busuttil (who carried out the post mortem) this was ‘fatal almost immediately’.

Tap on the link below to read more on sadistic killer Luke Mitchell’s murder TIMELINE;

Duplicitous Gaslighter & Fraud Sandra Lean Has Misrepresented The Facts Of The Case & Placed A False & Misleading Narrative Into The Public Domain

David Wilson started his Herald article with;

I’ve never needed to be convinced that miscarriages of justice happen in Scotland.

Excerpt by David Wilson for The Herald dated 12th April 2023

Jodi Jones killers PR campaign is yet another example of the very real innocence fraud phenomenon, NOT the outdated ‘miscarriage of justice’ phenomenon.

There has NOT been a ‘breach of the carriage of justice’ in this case!

The PR campaign is one of fraud ie; intentional deception to secure unfair or unlawful gain.

There are many examples in Scotland of the innocence fraud phenomenon and the sadistic killer of Jodi Jones’ fraudulent PR campaign is up there as one of the worst examples.

The PR campaign has been headed up by a duplicitous gaslighter and fraud called Sandra Lean (Who did not attend the 42 day trial). And for around 16 years or so Sandra Lean has misrepresented the actual facts of the case, which is something she has form for in several other cases and PR campaigns.

This 175 Part blog series has debunked a lot of Sandra Lean’s nonsense and propaganda. The Index for the blog series can be found by tapping on the link below;

Blagging

What is interesting about David Wilson’s article for the Herald is that he omitted to mention Sandra Lean’s name and instead claimed;

I have been able to: read transcripts from Luke’s trial; consult various appeals that were made on his behalf; looked at a range of newspaper commentary (some of which supported his conviction); watched Murder in a Small Town and also part of the Trials that Shocked Scotland series; listened to a podcast about the case – which also devoted most of an episode to Luke Mitchell speaking from prison (and he clearly is an intelligent man); and delved into some social media – which I can assure you is not for the faint-hearted.

Excerpt by David Wilson for The Herald dated 12th April 2023

Was David Wilson telling porkie pies when he stated;

I have been able to: read transcripts from Luke’s trial

Excerpt by David Wilson for The Herald dated 12th April 2023

What transcripts could David Wilson have possibly been able to read, given the fact there are no transcripts available to read in the public domain.

And a large volume of evidence heard during the 42 day trial has never been transcribed.

Innocence Fraud Watch are of the firm opinion David Wilson was/and is blagging.

David Wilson’s following statement was also interesting, as it appears to have been about Jane Hamilton and he appears to have attempted to throw her under the bus;

…looked at a range of newspaper commentary (some of which supported his conviction)

Excerpt by David Wilson for The Herald dated 12th April 2023

Jane Hamilton wrote a few articles in 2021, calling out the two part innocence fraud propaganda TV show called ‘Murder In A Small Town’, referred to by David Wilson.

As a result Jane Hamilton was subjected to a malicious and fabricated smear campaign orchestrated by Sandra Lean – something else she has form for.

The TV show rewrote history and the narrative told was based on the false and misleading narrative told by Sandra Lean in her second book which she callously called ‘Innocent’s Betrayed’ (David Wilson published a book in 2002 called ‘Innocence Betrayed’).

The podcast David Wilson referred to, was also based on Sandra Lean’s false and misleading narrative – which Innocence Fraud Watch will be addressing in due course;

It would be interesting to learn what ‘social media’ David Wilson was referring to, as it is clear he did not carry out any meaningful due diligence. Because if he had of done, he too would have recognised the main protagonist (Sandra Lean) behind this fraudulent PR campaign is not a reliable narrator and source and has told no end of lies.

Although David Wilson does appear to have noticed one of the lies perpetuated by Sandra Lean (and killer Luke and Corinne Mitchell) as he stated;

..nor is it true that his clothing was destroyed by his mother after the event

Excerpt by David Wilson for The Herald dated 12th April 2023

On page 34 of her innocence fraud book Sandra Lean stated;

..according to the prosecution..

Luke then coolly returned home and had his mother destroy a parka jacket he wore during the attack, in a log burner in the back garden and between them, they arranged for the disposal of the murder weapon

Sandra Lean – Page 34 IB

The prosecution never told the jury, nor did they imply that Corinne Mitchell had burned her sons parka jacket in the back garden.

This was another manufactured innocence fraud narrative of the killer, his mother and Sandra Lean (See below);

Alan Turnbull prosecuting, also told the jury at the High Court in Edinburgh that Mitchell, 16, thought he was ‘untouchable’.

He said Jodi’s injuries had been “inflicted with calm deliberation

He added:

“Her killer had a cold, calculating presence of mind and it is not difficult to look to Luke Mitchell as her killer. He discussed these awful events in a TV interview with not a tear, not a quiver, not the slightest indication of upset”

He said Mitchell even had the presence of mind to plot his defence immediately after the murder by phoning Jodi’s home and burning a parka he had worn during the attack.

Excerpt from the Daily Record by Ian Dow article headed Murder jury hear of morbid interests dated January 2005

DS Craig Dobbie stated;

We know clothes were missing from Luke’s wardrobe and we know the burner was used

Was the clothing burned? It’s a distinct possibility

Statements made by DS Craig Dobbie reported by Jack Mathieson for the Daily Record dated 22nd January 2005

Another despicable lie told by Sandra Lean in her book is as follows;

Judith’s claim that she woke Joseph at around 10.30pm, because Jodi was missing, was clearly mistaken – it was not until 10.40pm that Judith discovered Jodi had not been with Luke

Sandra Lean – page 89 IB

Judith Jones sent a text message to killer Luke Mitchell’s phone at 10:20pm. This fact was reported by the Herald here directly from the trial.

Sandra Lean also stated in her book on page 142;

Something is very wrong here. Judith did not know and could not have told anyone else that Jodi had not been with Luke that evening, until after she hung up the call with Luke at 10.42:40pm

Sandra Lean – page 142 IB

Sandra Lean’s bare faced lies about Jodi Jones loved ones are abhorrent and they aren’t mistakes. They are intentional lies told to mislead, deceive and gaslight anyone who doesn’t have a basic comprehension of the facts of the case against killer Luke Mitchell.

On page 150, Sandra Lean repeats her lies as if by repeating them, she can turn her lies into facts;

In a nutshell, prior to 10.40pm, no-one in Jodi’s family knew she had not been where she was supposed to be that night 

Sandra Lean – page 150 IB

Again – Judith Jones sent a text message to killer Luke Mitchell’s phone at 10:20pm, as was reported directly from the trial here.

David Wilson appears to be an egomaniac with no scruples who has jumped on the bandwagon of a lost cause and has used his waning ‘celebrity’ status in an attempt to keep himself relevant.

David Wilson is a hypocrite who has committed an outrage to Jodi Jones memory, to Jodi Jones loved ones and he has committed an outrage to all the other innocent people caught up in this blatant innocence fraud PR campaign.

Link to Part 177 here

Killer Luke Mitchell: Could David Wilson ‘Suffer’ From Hybristophilia? (Part 176)

To Commit An Outrage Against Someone

Photo of David Wilson from the Herald

The word hybristophilia was apparently derived from the Greek word hubrizein meaning “to commit an outrage against someone” and seemingly links back to a man called John Money who is said to have been a pro-pedophile pervert.

Hybristophilia appears to have been bastardized over the years and was used by David Wilson in a November 2021 article he wrote for the Daily Record headed We need to stop our caged killers getting fan mail from groupies where he stated in part;

Having worked with a number of high profile, media-savvy offenders in prison I became immediately aware of the phenomenon known as hybristophilia – the sexual interest that some women have for those who have committed violent crimes. 

Last month the Danes introduced a law to ban life-sentenced prisoners from receiving fan mail from new pen pals, and limiting their contact to friends that they had had before they were convicted for the first 10 years of their sentence.

As the Danish justice minister Nick Haekkerup said when introducing the bill, convicted criminals “should not be able to use prisons as dating centres, or media platforms.”

Excerpt by David Wilson from a Daily Record article headed We need to stop our caged killers getting fan mail from groupies dated 29th November 2021

Danish justice minister Nick Haekkerup also stated around the time;

We have seen distasteful examples in recent years of prisoners who have committed vile crimes contacting young people in order to gain their sympathy and attention

This must obviously be stopped

Excerpts from a Guardian article by Jon Henley headed Denmark to outlaw life sentence prisoners starting new romances dated 21st September 2021

In response to David Wilson’s article Innocence Fraud Watch tweeted the following;

What David Wilson @ProfDavidWilson omits to mention in his @Daily_Record article is the ‘fan mail’ of these killers also includes letters from lawyers, students, criminologists, authors, journalists & others

Do these individuals also suffer from the ‘hybristophilia’ phenomenon?

Cammilla Kurstein was a 17 year old schoolgirl who appears to have been exploited and groomed by psychopathic killer Peter Madsen after she apparently wrote to him wanting ‘to know what happened in the man’s head’

Interested to know why you would appear to attach the ‘hybristophilia’ phenomenon to a 17 year old school girl yet seemingly discount it (Or not recognise it) in some lawyers, students, criminologists, authors & journalists etc. who also write letters to killers

Excerpts by Innocence Fraud Watch here

‘Media Savvy’ Convicted Killer Luke Mitchell & His Vile Crimes

David Wilson has seemingly done a 180 degree turn on his “…convicted criminals ‘should not be able to use prisons as dating centres, or media platforms’ spiel in the past few days, and has added his support to 14 year old Jodi Jones killers fraudulent public relations (PR) campaign and written a bizarre article for the Scottish Herald.

In his article David Wilson made the following barmy statement;

..there is literally nothing – nothing – I could uncover that warranted Luke even being charged with Jodi’s murder, never mind being sent to trial

Excerpt by David Wilson for The Herald dated 12th April 2023

In January 2005 Rosalind McInness wrote an article for the BBC headed A uniquely hard case in which she referred to some of the difficulties reporters faced reporting on teenage killer Luke Mitchell’s 42 day trial.

This included ‘protecting vulnerable participants’, like the other young teenage girls who gave evidence about the violent assaults they had suffered at the hands of the then future killer.

After his murder trial, it came to light that other young girls had been threatened with a knife held to their throats by Luke Mitchell – who clearly had an undiagnosed conduct disorder with callous-unemotional traits.

Tap on the below link to read about some of the facts which came to light regarding the killers apparent undiagnosed conduct disorder with callousunemotional traits;

When Luke Mitchell decided to commit his murder on the 30th June 2003, he ‘repeatedly struck’ Jodi Joneson the head and body, compressed her throat and restricted her breathing and caused her to fall to the ground’.

He took one of his knives (thought to be a brown handled folding Jack Pyke knife or ‘something of this ilk’) and slashed Jodi Jones throat, ‘cutting the main artery in her neck seven-eights of the way through’.

Jodi Jones ‘jugular vein had also been cut right through and the main nerve had also been nicked’. The knife ‘slash’ had ‘gone through all three structures’, and according to Professor Busuttil (who carried out the post mortem) this was ‘fatal almost immediately’.

Tap on the link below to read more on sadistic killer Luke Mitchell’s murder TIMELINE;

Duplicitous Gaslighter & Fraud Sandra Lean Has Misrepresented The Facts Of The Case & Placed A False & Misleading Narrative Into The Public Domain

David Wilson started his Herald article with;

I’ve never needed to be convinced that miscarriages of justice happen in Scotland.

Excerpt by David Wilson for The Herald dated 12th April 2023

Jodi Jones killers PR campaign is yet another example of the very real innocence fraud phenomenon, NOT the outdated ‘miscarriage of justice’ phenomenon.

There has NOT been a ‘breach of the carriage of justice’ in this case!

The PR campaign is one of fraud ie; intentional deception to secure unfair or unlawful gain.

There are many examples in Scotland of the innocence fraud phenomenon and the sadistic killer of Jodi Jones’ fraudulent PR campaign is up there as one of the worst examples.

The PR campaign has been headed up by a duplicitous gaslighter and fraud called Sandra Lean (Who did not attend the 42 day trial). And for around 16 years or so Sandra Lean has misrepresented the actual facts of the case, which is something she has form for in several other cases and PR campaigns.

This 175 Part blog series has debunked a lot of Sandra Lean’s nonsense and propaganda. The Index for the blog series can be found by tapping on the link below;

Blagging

What is interesting about David Wilson’s article for the Herald is that he omitted to mention Sandra Lean’s name and instead claimed;

I have been able to: read transcripts from Luke’s trial; consult various appeals that were made on his behalf; looked at a range of newspaper commentary (some of which supported his conviction); watched Murder in a Small Town and also part of the Trials that Shocked Scotland series; listened to a podcast about the case – which also devoted most of an episode to Luke Mitchell speaking from prison (and he clearly is an intelligent man); and delved into some social media – which I can assure you is not for the faint-hearted.

Excerpt by David Wilson for The Herald dated 12th April 2023

Was David Wilson telling porkie pies when he stated;

I have been able to: read transcripts from Luke’s trial

Excerpt by David Wilson for The Herald dated 12th April 2023

What transcripts could David Wilson have possibly been able to read, given the fact there are no transcripts available to read in the public domain.

And a large volume of evidence heard during the 42 day trial has never been transcribed.

Innocence Fraud Watch are of the firm opinion David Wilson was/and is blagging.

David Wilson’s following statement was also interesting, as it appears to have been about Jane Hamilton and he appears to have attempted to throw her under the bus;

…looked at a range of newspaper commentary (some of which supported his conviction)

Excerpt by David Wilson for The Herald dated 12th April 2023

Jane Hamilton wrote a few articles in 2021, calling out the two part innocence fraud propaganda TV show called ‘Murder In A Small Town’, referred to by David Wilson.

As a result Jane Hamilton was subjected to a malicious and fabricated smear campaign orchestrated by Sandra Lean – something else she has form for.

The TV show rewrote history and the narrative told was based on the false and misleading narrative told by Sandra Lean in her second book which she callously called ‘Innocent’s Betrayed’ (David Wilson published a book in 2002 called ‘Innocence Betrayed’).

The podcast David Wilson referred to, was also based on Sandra Lean’s false and misleading narrative – which Innocence Fraud Watch will be addressing in due course;

It would be interesting to learn what ‘social media’ David Wilson was referring to, as it is clear he did not carry out any meaningful due diligence. Because if he had of done, he too would have recognised the main protagonist (Sandra Lean) behind this fraudulent PR campaign is not a reliable narrator and source and has told no end of lies.

Although David Wilson does appear to have noticed one of the lies perpetuated by Sandra Lean (and killer Luke and Corinne Mitchell) as he stated;

..nor is it true that his clothing was destroyed by his mother after the event

Excerpt by David Wilson for The Herald dated 12th April 2023

On page 34 of her innocence fraud book Sandra Lean stated;

..according to the prosecution..

Luke then coolly returned home and had his mother destroy a parka jacket he wore during the attack, in a log burner in the back garden and between them, they arranged for the disposal of the murder weapon

Sandra Lean – Page 34 IB

The prosecution never told the jury, nor did they imply that Corinne Mitchell had burned her sons parka jacket in the back garden.

This was another manufactured innocence fraud narrative of the killer, his mother and Sandra Lean. (See below);

Alan Turnbull prosecuting, also told the jury at the High Court in Edinburgh that Mitchell, 16, thought he was ‘untouchable’.

He said Jodi’s injuries had been “inflicted with calm deliberation

He added:

“Her killer had a cold, calculating presence of mind and it is not difficult to look to Luke Mitchell as her killer. He discussed these awful events in a TV interview with not a tear, not a quiver, not the slightest indication of upset”

He said Mitchell even had the presence of mind to plot his defence immediately after the murder by phoning Jodi’s home and burning a parka he had worn during the attack.

Excerpts from the Daily Record by Ian Dow article headed Murder jury hear of morbid interests dated January 2005

DS Craig Dobbie stated;

We know clothes were missing from Luke’s wardrobe and we know the burner was used

Was the clothing burned? It’s a distinct possibility

Statements made by DS Craig Dobbie reported by Jack Mathieson for the Daily Record dated 22nd January 2005

Another despicable lie told by Sandra Lean in her book is as follows;

Judith’s claim that she woke Joseph at around 10.30pm, because Jodi was missing, was clearly mistaken – it was not until 10.40pm that Judith discovered Jodi had not been with Luke

Sandra Lean – page 89 IB

Judith Jones sent a text message to killer Luke Mitchell’s phone at 10:20pm. This fact was reported by the Herald here directly from the trial.

Sandra Lean also stated in her book on page 142;

Something is very wrong here. Judith did not know and could not have told anyone else that Jodi had not been with Luke that evening, until after she hung up the call with Luke at 10.42:40pm

Sandra Lean – page 142 IB

Sandra Lean’s bare faced lies about Jodi Jones loved ones are abhorrent and they aren’t mistakes. They are intentional lies told to mislead, deceive and gaslight anyone who doesn’t have a basic comprehension of the facts of the case against killer Luke Mitchell.

On page 150, Sandra Lean repeats her lies as if by repeating them, she can turn her lies into facts;

Again – Judith Jones sent a text message to killer Luke Mitchell’s phone at 10:20pm, as was reported directly from the trial here.

David Wilson appears to be an egomaniac with no scruples who has jumped on the bandwagon of a lost cause and has used his waning ‘celebrity’ status in an attempt to keep himself relevant.

David Wilson is a hypocrite who has committed an outrage to Jodi Jones memory, to Jodi Jones loved ones and he has committed an outrage to all the other innocent people caught up in this blatant innocence fraud PR campaign.

Link to Part 177 here

Killer Luke Mitchell: Question Time For Confidence Trickster Sandra Lean (Part 171)

*Guest Blog*

But they also heard from another source, that a deal was made not to use DNA evidence, although this was never confirmed and there seemed to be no logical reason for the defence agreeing to such a deal

Excerpt from pahe 198 of Sandra Lean’s 2nd book IB

Question time Sandra Lean…

This is from IB, P.198.

This is 2018, and it is nonsense, is it not? That one still refuses to acknowledge that this agreement has without doubt, been confirmed many times.

Let me apply the correct context, for people to see, just how different this is, when in context.

Luke Mitchell heard an agreement taken place at his trial, one made in his presence between Donald Findlay and Alan Turnbull.

The basis of the agreement was, to not discuss further, DNA, which was not going to be used as evidence…. Evidence of existence but not evidence of murder.

So, they took, certain DNA, they agreed the following fully, “That there was nothing found that could not be innocently explained away” NO DNA, that could be used in connection with any crime being committed, such as the murder. That applies to anyone.

Now let us look at the following – “There was no forensic evidence linking Luke Mitchell to the murder

Not and never, that there was no DNA of Luke Mitchell’s present.

Two separate entities.

Question – Did you ask Luke Mitchell who the source of the was? If not then why not?

Or, alternatively, did you not have to ask him for you already knew who the source was? –

We don’t require a question as answer, just a straight forward answer to the w rusk question, please.

To blank source, to apply the word evidence – Transforms the reality around the forensics, the samples obtained and tested.

In brief it gives room at all times to manipulate away from the truth, does it not?

Link to Part 172 here

Killer Luke Mitchell: ‘Once You Are Caught In A Web Of Deceit It Is Almost Impossible To Escape’ (Part 116)

*Guest Blog*

One positive of Sandra Lean’s second book is the intensity of the spinning now required by Sandra Lean on a larger scale.

The more she is asked questions the more she highlights just how lacking she really is.

Common sense and intellect are not evident.

The half truths and the explanations are a shambles. 

I have mentioned this several times now, it matters not who pays heed to this.

For some people there is no attempt at changing horses mid stream.

Once you are caught in a web of deceit it is almost impossible to escape.

Allowing oneself first and foremost to become entangled out of sheer foolishness will not change.

Some common sense first: –

Luke Mitchell was arrested some 10 months after Jodi’s murder.

If you have already been tangled up in the nonsense of tunnel vision, of setting out to fit Luke Mitchell up from the moment that 999 call was made. Read no further. 

DNA – I am going to start here with the infamous bra strap –

Sandra Leans favourite for spinning with.

Of only recently again making claim, to some markers belonging to 4/5 others closely linked to the investigation.

Here is the half truth, that there were common markers.

To be common they have to sit in the same place.

You may have already read Chris’s technical terms around this.

We can stick with markers here.

To include someone as a donor there can be NO markers present that do no match theirs.

These others that Sandra Lean includes with markers, were EXCLUDED as being a donor.

There were markers present NOT belonging to them.

Every marker, and there were several in place, the same as Luke Mitchells included him as the donor.

The bra strap was not unique to this, there were multiple partial profiles, all with the same markers siting in the same place as Luke Mitchells, all of these partials he could NOT be excluded as being the donor of.

Those law of averages, those multiples make it almost certain they were all Luke Mitchells.

Proven not, almost certain, yes.

Did it matter – yes it did, not for Luke Mitchell and his close relationship with Jodi, but of this murder NOT pointing to A another. That of a stranger. 

Doing the rounds and yet again not corrected.

This Cath Black claiming that the blood on David Dickie’s shoe was Jodi’s. Those arms and legs added with some of Luke Mitchells most avid supporters.

The type of support needed to ensure Luke Mitchell stays where he belongs. But of spinning and another posted of James Falconer’s DNA and the database:

Now I have picked up on this before, that any OTHER profiles present tell us clearly they do not belong to ANY of Sandra Leans others, (EX Steven Kelly) Robert Greens included or claimed ‘similar‘ crimes.

Where she is now putting out further half truths around this male.

Stating that he had been in trouble prior to his DNA flagging up in the system.

No shit, did the guy get stopped for speeding?

Any type of minor offence that did not warrant a DNA sample being taken.

Using this as a means to claim that anything at the time may NOT have been run through the database – BS. In Peter Pan land of some fantasy conspiracy theory, borne from those days of Jigsawman.

The powers on high were out to stitch that lad up – BS

Back to Luke Mitchell and that 10 month period in time.

Where anyone, with even a smidgeon of common sense, will see that there had to be sufficient evidence that warranted Luke Mitchell being and remaining the prime suspect in this murder.

Take your head out of any obtuse conspiracy theory and think.

This was 10 months, there was no rush, no drive to get a quick arrest, to nail someone for this murder. This brutal murder of a 14 year old girl.

Add in every other male that had been known through this. Steven Kelly, the duo, the brother, Mark Kane and that condom. All known almost instantly.

It does NOT matter that the duo and condom mans actual ID was not knowing to the police until after the 1st of July.

The duo were known to the police almost instantly. they knew that two youths had been seen near to the locus. They were instantly prime in this investigation.

The very reason that appeal was put out.

The ID of them knowing to the police within the week.

The condom and some real common sense, not Sandra Leans “he may have tried to put it in his pocket and dropped it.” Of the crow flies measurements and all else.

There was nothing that is 0 of his DNA at the immediate locus or in sight of it. If there had have been, it would have raised more than a ? with Donald Findlay.

Yes we know, Sandra Lean has him down as inadequate too.

This nonsense and the database, that profile upon the deceased’s shoe. Nothing flagged up and irrelevant. A sperm head (1) from a woodland, who would have thought?

Now to draw back to this DNA.

This person who has written a book where those who are that blinded, do not even pick up on the fact that there is actually no proper referencing to any witness statements.

Just that they come from the defence papers. And those forensic reports.

Blagging her way through any type of nonsense.

Where this further spinning is required.

She is being asked direct questions and the answer is “I never thought of that!

As we had with the female element of DNA present in semen.

Book written before any expertise given.

Blagging and further blagging.

This was the brutal murder of a 14yr old girl and the woman is blagging her way through a book.

Her sole aim, to draw the reader onto other possible people of interest.

To blag about them, the police, the defence and all else – to have a chapter in her book called “The agreed Facts!” which is the agreement made between Sandra Lean and Luke Mitchell.

Nothing to do with facts as we know it.

The most blatant half truth in it all. Luke Mitchells LIES labelled as FACTS.

(Original forum post here)

Link to Part 117 here

Killer Luke Mitchell: Pretend Criminologist & Con-Artist Sandra Lean’s HOAX Was Exposed Years Ago (Part 112)

*Guest Blog*

Lets draw in at this point:  COINCIDENCES.

The coincidence of Jodi getting out earlier than anticipated:
The coincidence of leaving to meet Luke at this earlier time:
The coincidence that there is no other form of evidence, to suggest she was doing anything other than this.
The coincidence that a male and female were spotted at their usual meet place, on the Easthouses entrance of this path.
The coincidence that this matched the time it would take Jodi to get there.
The coincidence that according to Judith, they were to be hanging around in her area.
The coincidence that the description given of these two’s clothing were of similar colour and style. Dark, baggy and green.
The coincidence that Luke’s hair did stick out.
The coincidence that Jodi’s hair was tied back.
The coincidence that not one but two male youths, were witnessed at both the Eashouses and Newbattle area of this path.
The coincidence that these two males, in appearance were one and the same.
The coincidence that IF not Luke, or the female being Jodi, that these TWO have never been traced.
The coincidence of time between these two sightings and the disappearance of this female – most certainly.
The coincidence of cannabis being in this girls system, no more than an hour before death.
The coincidence that this would be with someone whom she smoked it regularly with.
The unlikely coincidence of this being prior to her leaving home – due to recently being punishment for smoking.
The coincidence of this girl being murdered in a stretch of woodland she most definitely did frequent with Luke Mitchell.
The coincidence of him lying about frequenting this woodland.
The coincidence of the initials in the tree to show he was lying.
The coincidence of Leonard Kelly hearing noises from this woodland around the presumed TOD.
The unlikely coincidence of this girl walking this path alone – far less in this woodland alone.
The coincidence of the duo on the bike, being on this path after these noises, heard by Leonard Kelly.
The coincidence that stocky man was eliminated, he was out of the country on this day.
The further coincidence of yet another mystery source, of yet another stocky man, being claimed.
The coincidence of calling the landline rather than her mothers mobile at 5.32 and 5.38,
the point of contact that had been used earlier by Jodi. – why not text or call this, when making out he believed she would still be at home? When there was no answer the first time, or rang long enough, to be heard to be answered.
The coincidence of two unrelated people – stating that Luke had said, he thought Jodi had been grounded again, and not coming out.
The coincidence that he had been told, Jodi had already left – why therefore grounded or not coming out?
The coincidence of claiming to be in a given area for 90mins with very little sightings – 
The coincidence of phoning his friends more than once, wondering where they were?
The coincidence of claiming to be in his house by 9.00pm rather than his usual 10pm.
The coincidence of claiming to be in his house until 10.30pm but coincidently seen by his neighbour,
entering his house at 10pm
The coincidence of there being a fire in the Mitchell garden – on this dreek night.
The coincidence of buying a parka jacket matching one that the police were looking for.
The coincidence of knowing what colour her hair fastener was – in the dark, from a distance.
The coincidence of knowing that she lay behind a large Oak tree..
The coincidence of buying another knife of the type used to murder this girl.
The coincidence of this knife not being found after the house being thoroughly searched, by a professional search team.
The coincidence of this knife supposedly being in a bag under the dogs bowls – the search team had run their fingers through said meat in these bowl, yet missed this bag.
The coincidence of purchasing a magazine that had a free CD which showed the murder of a girl, by a bladed instrument, in a woodland.
The coincidence of not knowing of the existence of this V break in the wall, on a path he had used many, many times, leading into the woodland he claimed not to frequent.
The coincidence that from that very first text there are no witnesses to him being at home.
The coincidence that his brother has absolutely no memory of seeing him that day at that time.
The coincidence of being asked to go back and change his statement, by his mother – urgently.
The coincidence of music claiming to be played – clearly there wasn’t – Shane Mitchell didn’t hear it.
So the coincidence of not only his brother not seeing him at home, but did not hear him at home either.
The coincidence of his mother remembering clearly what he had been wearing.
The coincidence of cooking other items for dinner, to replace the brandishing broccoli.
The coincidence of this laddie cooking the family dinner, yet did nothing else at home.
The coincidence of pies (chicken or steak?) being burnt, whilst this laddie was watching over them – or
the coincidence of these pies being put onto cook prior to him leaving – then they burnt.
The coincidence that this laddie supposedly waited for his mothers arrival home, before asking her about the broccoli.
The coincidence that dinner that day was to be upon the mothers arrival home, rather than around 5.45pm
The coincidence that dinner, had obviously been implied to have been made earlier, thus;
the coincidence of Luke and his mother, finishing off making this tea, after her arrival home at 5.15,
the ensuing conversation about the limp broccoli, the making of the prawns, the scraping of the burnt bits,
the mashing of the tatties, the heating of the beans, the dishing out of said food, was completed, the collecting of this dinner by Shane and taking his upstairs, Corrine into the wet garden to eat, Luke into the livingroom. Dinner is over, he gets ready and leaves his house by 5.30pm. The clear description of his clothing noted by his mother. The conversation had around it.
The coincidence that he claims, to have waited until he got out, onto Newbattle Road, before phoning the Jones landline.
The coincidence that he is hanging around, with a phone in his hand, waiting to make a further call due to the first not connecting, on a road with little pedestrians yet was not seen.
The further coincidence that Lorraine Fleming and Rosemary Walsh spotted his doppelgänger further up Newbattle Road, yet did not spot, the dude at the gates doppledanger, further down the road – that would be something that would definitely stand out.
The coincidence that their first statements stated they saw this youth on Newbattle road near to where the Abbey is.
The coincidence that when you are driving this road, you are at this Abbey entrance, in a car in seconds.
The coincidence when going over this route with the police – they gave the exact location as being the wooden gate.
The coincidence being that they spotted him whilst driving towards him, once passing, again by looking in rear view mirror,
the coincidence that by this point, you are approaching a turn in the road, enabling the cyclist to be seen also, further ahead.
Let’s not forget the coincidence again of this youth in green clothing was a doppledanger for the one at the Easthouses entrance of this path.
The coincidence of no further communication from Jodi to Luke, to keep him informed as to why she had not turned up.
The further coincidence that shows the holes as to why this neither concerned him, either.
The remarkable coincidence that he did phone the Jones household, needing only to speak once,
the coincidence that this shows, he had to be seen, to be implying looking for her – he did not know those texts were erased, he knew for a fact that her parents would be expecting her to be with him and only him.
The rather strange coincidence of his mothers word given of “ach, she will have met up with some girlfriends and got gabbing” when he arrived home, as claimed at 9pm. Corinne knowing too that this girl was, technically not supposed to use this path alone, that she had been going to meet with Luke, that she had not turned up – simply said “ach, she will have met up with some girlfriends and got gabbing” for 4hrs. Not, oh I think you should call her to check and make sure everything is ok. 
The further coincidence of when Judith text Luke’s phone this changed to, worrying that she may have had an asthma attack?
Which takes us onto the biggest coincidence of all.
That this girls mother had text Luke’s phone at 10.40pm.
That he met with members of this girls family shortly after 11pm
That by 11.40pm this girl had been found:
In an area of woodland, off the beaten track, behind a tall, thick wall.
Not only the coincidence of how hidden this girl was, out of sight of anyone, who may go into the usual walk way of this woodland. She was indeed behind a large Oak tree, and she did have a red fastener in her hair, tangled out of sight,
so much so that the pathologist did not spot it at first. 
The rather odd coincidence of claim of this girl being moved prior to the pathologist arrivals. 
What you can be sure of here, this would have been done with great care and respect.
This moving would NOT have tangled this hair fastener out of sight.
It was clearly known by Luke to have been in her hair for one reason only.
The coincidence being that the account given by this search party,
were so far removed from Luke’s version of events – they rang alarm bells instantly.
That of:
The amazing abilities of said, partially trained guard dogs tracking skills.
The remarkable coincidence that Luke did search the path on the way up –
no wait a minute he did not search the path on the way up-
One account given as to why the search party wanted to continue down the path he had come up,
if Luke had already searched it.
The other account given that he did not put the dog in tracker mode, he was at haste to get up this path, 
The dog may have been acting frantically on the way up whilst nearing the parallel spot, he did not notice this,
he just wanted up this path quickly.
Yet, yes he had already searched it? choosing to use his tracker skills rather than the dogs?
Messy, eh?
And further coincidences, the gran wants to continue down this path, to search properly, worried that her granddaughter may have falling and hurt herself – something worse probably not entering her mind, the unthinkable.
They all know that Jodi isn’t supposed to walk down here on her own, searching the woodland behind this wall does not enter their heads – bar Luke.
He coincidently climbs this wall near to where they meet – at the ‘Gino‘ spot.
Further down at this V point he again looks into the woodland – the dog is jumping about.
He goes over and walks down to his left – he barely covers any distance and shouts he has found something.
A remarkable account of amazing coincidence – that not only in the dark, but the darkness of this woodland,
he is able to see this red hair fastener, and knows the type of tree. That they had barely been on this path together for 20 mins and this girl is found, within seconds of him entering this dark woodland.
She had not been found in daylight that entire evening – left hidden.

And people wonder why suspicion fell upon Luke.
They claim there was absolutely no evidence to warrant that suspicion.
They claim that the police badly shoehorned evidence together.
Would that be the – no evidence shoehorned together.

We have these coincidences of Luke being officially a suspect by the 3rd of July, and that this girls family were treated differently. 
Those first statements are why this family became less suspect and Luke more so.
There clearly were, no alarm bells ringing from the accounts they gave.
Why therefore should they have been treated the same?
Because this brother has health issues and behavioural problems? yet
absolutely no evidence to support claims of suspicion, that warranted extra grief being heaped on this family.
But it’s not fair is it, it does not matter if there is no evidence to merit him being put through the ringer like Luke.
These claims and innuendoes of said brother;
Lets apply back that same rod to Luke outwith the above:

Holding a knife to a girls throat, threatening to gut her.
Brushed off afterwards as a joke.
Threatening another girl with a knife, if she did not have sex with him.
Habitually carrying a knife around with him –
not some little camping tool but a skunting knife
Reports of worrying behaviour meriting suggestion of external help/counselling.
Heavy user of cannabis at 14.
Allowed to smoke.
Allowed to drink.
Allowed to have under age sex at home.
Allowed to drive.
Allowed to get a tattoo at 15.
Jabbing Jodi in the leg with a knife.
Buying large quantities of cannabis at 14 and dealing it out.
Pulled up at cadets for possession of a knife.
Knives bought for him after the brutal murder of his girlfriend with a knife.
So heavily sedated – its claimed, thus no emotion, yet
out partying up town within weeks of this girls murder.
Still sharing sleeping quarters with his mother some 9 months after this murder.
The storing of bottles of urine in his coup of a room, clearly showing he used these stairs frequently whilst, supposedly heavily sedated.
Allowed to drink alcohol whilst under claimed medication.
Reports of numerous accounts of cruelty to animals.
Describing the best way to kill someone, by slitting their throat.

Tie this in with the other coincidences above. 
Was the evidence badly shoehorned –
or does it simply stand out on its own?
Did the police choose to target an innocent wee smite, 
with absolutely nothing to go on?
Did the police let the real killer go –
the one or more who had no evidence, of a clearly disturbing set of events against them?
Did they choose to go with the easy target? rather than the clear suspect?
Was their aim solely to get results, to get any old, made up killer off the streets?
Did the police not care if they were going to be leaving this danger out on the streets,
with the likelihood of killing more innocents young girls.
Or did the police firmly believe they were getting this killer off the streets,
that they could neither turn a blind eye to the evidence above or eliminate it?

(Original forum post here)

Link to Part 113 here

Killer Luke Mitchell: Malignant Narcissist Sandra Lean’s Bad Habits (Part 109)

*Guest Blog*

For this post I’m going to work backwards, these highlight some of the areas that stood out amongst the miraculous coincidences in this case. 

At 10.40pm this girls mother sent a text to Luke Mitchell’s phone,  she appears somewhat miffed at her daughter being 40mins past her curfew time, at this point.

Luke upon receiving this text phones Judith, he informs her that he has not been with Jodi, at all that evening. 

It is upon this phone call that Judith becomes instantly worried, this isn’t some short time as earlier in the evening, at this point her daughter has not been, where she was supposed to have been for nearly 6hrs. 

The instant worry this brings and what appears to be panic – shows that this is something that is not of the norm. There may have been an occurrence at some earlier date, in which, this girl had stayed out late, her mother subsequently tracking her down. There is nothing in this earlier occurrence that is made clear upon the circumstances. What it does show, is that this, appeared to be singular incident, thus highlighting it was not a frequent event. 

What is sure about the evening of the 30th of June 2003, is that Judith had been of the sound opinion, that Jodi was with Luke and nowhere else, it is this that draws this deep concern. And rightly so.

It appears at this point Judith contacted her mothers house to see if Jodi was there, she wasn’t, which furthers this mothers worry.

Judith phoned Luke back, she informs him that she is going to phone the police, that she is most definitely, by this point, somewhat frantic with worry. 

Between this first text at 10.40pm until just after 11pm, there appear to be a series of calls between various people. Luke, Judith, the gran, sister and the police. 

Sandra Lean puts the gran, sister and Steven Kelly at this path at 10.58pm. A somewhat precise time? 

There is no information as to why she has this time, no source – nothing, but uses this to infer the search party had left the house before knowing this girl was missing?

What is clear, is that there is numerous times of contact between Judith, Luke and the grans house phone, who do we imagine Judith was talking to when the house phone was answered in the grans? And presumably more calls to this grans mobile whilst out. Why does Sandra Lean miss out all of those, along with any information given. 

Is this precise 10.58pm yet again another mystery source.

We know that one of Sandra Lean’s sources for information is John Ferris whom she claims, said in one of his statements that, the search party walked passed Yvonne Walker’s house, which in itself would mean that this search trio walked backwards, rather than head directly to said path? Did he give a time, did Sandra Lean subsequently walk this backward route, and determine the time being at 10.58pm?

We have also seen mention, as to why this search trio did not go into Scotts Caravans on their way past? Which begs the question why? She had not been with Luke all evening, why go into his mothers work place?

It is also clear, that in one of these conversations, Luke informs Judith that he is at the Newbattle end of this path – there appears to be some confusion between a bike and a dog? by Sandra Lean’s information given. 

Sandra Lean’s (Aka Sandra L) original forum post here

What would appear correct is that Judith informed the other members of her family as to Luke’s whereabouts. It is these factors that seem to determine why all four met on this path. 

Steven Kelly, Janine and this gran heading to meet Luke to search and vice versa. It also appears that this meet had taken place near the Easthouses entrance not at the entrance. Whilst Luke was approaching an area of sight he saw the other members heading towards him, not at a standstill, plus the entrance not being within sight itself. 

Would be fair to assume here?, that both parties knew they were going to meet up to search.
When they met, this trio had already been searching to this point on the path, they realised that Luke had not searched, only that he had not noticed anything on the actual path, on his haste up it. It was this it would seem, that got them all walking down to actually search, properly.

This not being allowed to walk this path alone, seems quite prominent in any debate, why search a path Jodi was not supposed to use – would it not be fair, at this point for this to be of no value, she was to be meeting Luke, the connecting area is this path, by whatever conversations between the parties, the agreement was to search this path.

What does seem evident, that whilst 3 members of this search party, looked in the field and overgrowth, to the side of this path, she shouldn’t really have used, it did not enter their heads to search this woodland – unlikely perhaps in their minds, that it was one thing, this girl maybe walking this path alone, walking in the woods alone was something else, entirely different. It was only Luke Mitchell whom saw fit to do so?

They reach a Gino point (graffiti on the wall) where the wall is slightly broken on top. Luke climbs up on this wall and shines his torch into the woodland. 

At his point, without any alert from his dog, he already puts in motion to look into this wood. Perhaps showing at this point, it is an area that he knew Jodi to go into with him. Even though he is later to deny having frequented the woodland side of this wall. Evidence produced to the contrary. One of the first slip ups whilst trying to distance himself, from any knowledge of being in this woodland before, far less of frequenting it.

From this point all members are searching to the field and to the overgrowth beside the wall, until, they reach the V point. At this point again, Luke shines his torch into the woodland.

It is in those very first accounts by this search party that there is a dispute, as to whether this dog reacted, first where and the reaction itself. 

There is nothing it would appear in any of those statements that tally with Luke’s version of events, to where this dog reacted, outwith around this V.

His first account being that he had walked not even 20yds when his dog bounded over to the wall, scrabbling and sniffing the air?

The only accounts given by the search party, are of the dog standing against this wall, nose level with the V.

Luke after shining his torch over, climbs over at this easier access point and turns to his left, this is witnessed by other members of the search party.

Contrary to not being able to see over, it would appear that the bottom (V) of this V is somewhat 4ft from ground level and opens out up in its shape. 

Here’s what to think of, two members give account of seeing Luke turn left over this V,

What is also shown is that he hands the dogs lead to this granny? witnessed by other search party members. This clarifies that all members of this search party where around this V point when this happens, and not some distance away, in the dark.

If 3 member of this party had walked some distance passed, then Luke backtracked, Steven Kelly and Janine would have been some 30+ passed by this point.

Unable to see this handing over of the dog lead. The dogs head level with this V or indeed see Luke and the granny at all?

He goes over and turns left, direction he is shining his torch. 

It is at this point that Steven Kelly and Janine continue to walk this 10 – 15ft passed when Luke shouts he has found something.

They then back track to this V point beside granny. 

What was clearly shown in court is whilst they had walked this 10-15ft so had Luke on the other side, it was from this distance into the overgrowth of this woodland that he managed to see something, some 30ft down? 

He not only in his first statements gave details of how far he had walked but of this red bobble and large Oak Tree..

Now whilst it may be so, that an interviewing office may have mentioned this tree, it was after Luke doing so, further on, into his statements. Same with this bobble, how ridiculous is it to hint at the press putting this in his head?? Really?

So to highlight main points here, there is nothing in those first statements that clearly say, that all members of this search party, gave any indication, whatsoever of having walked some distance passed this V point, and at that point the dog jumping up onto this wall. It is clear that this happened around the V.

As further statements were taken, these events in their clarity showed how vastly different they all were. From Luke within 3 days drawing a diagram for his family liaison officer (FLO). These were what drew suspicion. 

That this search trio had not been out searching before realising this girl was missing – ludicrous in its stretching to the extreme of any actual facts.

Did this search party, in its infancy in investigation give rough times which were later determined by other factors. Phone records and so forth. Like all investigations, first accounts are investigated, went over and flaws picked out. It is clear whose statements showed major flaws. 

One thing that is very evident in all of this, is:

This girl was hidden from any usual thoroughfare of walked routes, on this woodland side of this wall.

She was not discovered in the course of this evening. 

Within approx.: 20mins of this search party meeting up she was discovered, in the dark, in this hidden area by the only person to look there. Both at the Gino point and the V.

This dog was nowhere near to where Jodi lay on the other side of this wall – there is nothing in any of the search party members statements, from the off, that say it did. 
This is why, it was pointless for Donald Findlay to introduce evidence from dog tracking experts. 
Him, in his expertise saw the futility in this.
There would have been nothing to show, that this family guard dog/pet had the abilities to sense this girl from the distance they were at.
People appear to be somewhat confused by dog walkers finding bodies. yes, if the dog is actually in an accessible area, running around.
This dog had no access, it was a damp, dreek night. 

He did give statements which showed vast difference in the account of this happening between those of the other search party members.

Sandra Lean has a somewhat bad habit of taking timings from accounts that had been determined to be wrong after investigation.

Those of this girls mother in her first statements of given an approximate timing of events. A mother whom clearly was blocked mentally by this horrific discovery of her child, as those of the search party were too, all but Luke Mitchell and Corinne Mitchell whose accounts sang totally in tune. 

Whatever those accounts given by this girls family of their first recollection of events on the 30th of June, did not sing in tune, there clearly was no concoction of stories to prove false, to show that they were hiding anything. Timing tied together, of the fathers account getting home to this girl leaving. He did not see her. Clearly shows that she had infact left before 5pm. 

These other sightings – girl whom knew Jodi, is this the girl who saw her on the main Easthouses road? not outside her own home, and showing to be at an earlier time, off the school bus perhaps? 

This neighbour, what neighbour? again a loose feeble point. not disregarded but shown to be not after 5pm on this day, upon further investigation.

IF there had been anything untoward in respect of this male member, be it Joey Jones or Steven Kelly it would have stood out, it didn’t. 

This account also of why the granny. sister and Steven Kelly and not the mother, father and brother went searching?

What else is in those statements, what were the reasons given for this?

The only thing that seems feasible in all of this, is. The speed at which all of the above events took place, from that first text to the finding of this girl. 

The call to the police? Were these other members simply waiting on the police arriving at this girls house? The granny making the decision to go and search with Luke whilst this happened? 

None of this family, at any point imagining the events which would unfold so quickly. 

So again, this somewhat bizarre coincidence, that in reality, once all four members were together, that this girls body was found, within an extremely short timescale.
This in itself showing clearly that only the person responsible would have been able to show where this girl was – and he did. Not his dog, which was nowhere near to where Jodi lay. 

What is clear in all of this is the somewhat blinkered view. From a person whose sole source of information came mainly from the Mitchell household. From their belief in innocence becoming stronger once power of attorney (POA) was established. The pushing out of economical truths with heavily biased opinion. The result somewhat nonsensical.

(Original forum post here)

Link to Part 110 here

Killer Luke Mitchell Had All Of This Time Over This Evening To Dispose, Clean & So Forth & Proxy Abuser, & Pretend Criminologist Sandra Lean’s Web Of Deceit To Reach Maslow’s Pyramid (Part 108)

*Guest Blog*

The only time Luke Mitchell could have murdered Jodi Jones was 5.15. If she was murdered at 5.15 then the only time she could have been seen by Andrina Bryson at the end of the path was ~4.50. If Andrina Bryson saw her at ~4.50, then Mrs Bryson must have been driving north, towards the house she wanted to see, not south away from it (as she stated in her original statement?) If Andrina Bryson saw Luke Mitchell in Easthouses at ~4.50 then his mother and brother are lying about him having been at home, in the house, until 5.30. Bingo we got him!

Rolfe

You got it in one!

Sandra Lean

What dictated the police timeline? Please bear with me – this gets messy!! Basically, the other evidence that couldn’t be manipulated. The 5.32pm call from Luke’s mobile to the Jones’ landline was on record. He was seen sitting on a wall at the end of his street at between 5.50pm and 6pm by boys who knew him. A woman returning videos to a rental store saw him on the Newbattle Road at 6.15pm.

Sandra Lean

Got it in one – however, it’s not about this being the “only time” Luke Mitchell could have murdered Jodi, it is the clear time that fits around the evidence, once police had established timings.

It actually. only gets messy, when you try to bear with Sandra Lean’s many different attempts at trying to break this evidence down. It’s not an easy feat – to dissolve something that has many mitigating factors to back it up.

Interestingly here we have this first basis of truth – the sightings around 5.55pm and 6.15pm.

Luke claims to have made the call to the Jones household from the entrance, at this wall he was sitting on at 5.32pm.

This being. one of the two times in a day that this road is at its busiest with commuters.

No sighting for a whole 25mins. – except of course Lorraine Fleming and Rosemary Walsh around 5:40 once he had come into sight, when crossing over from his exit from path, after making these calls, hidden from view. 

Let’s say they’d gone for the time between that 6.15pm sighting and 7pm when he met his pals. That would have knocked out the Bryson sighting – for Luke to have got from the Newbattle Road to the Easthouses end to be seen by Bryson, he’d have needed 18 – 20 minutes (depending on where, on the Newbattle Road, he started off), then another 9 minutes to get back down the path to the V break. He’d need 10 minutes back from the murder scene to where he met his pals. So the to-ing and fro-ing alone would have taken up 37 – 39 minutes of that 45 minute window (leaving not enough time for the murder) and lost them the only eyewitness they had.

Sandra Lean

Why,” let’s say” they had gone with the timing between 6.15pm and 7pm – there is nothing to go on here outwith there being no sightings of him.

You can’t simply assume someone committed a murder because they were not seen.

What about all of the other factors?

He had no alibi set in place for this time, the reason why, is because only he knew, by this point which time this murder had taken place. The time he would most definitely need an alibi. 

On the 30th of June until after his first interviews, Luke Mitchell had no way of knowing if these texts had been erased from her mothers phone. 

He solely has to go on this information alone.

That her parents would know she was meeting him.

That he would have known she was getting out earlier than expected.

The time of her leaving her house to go and do so.

That crucial area of time, that would be focused on, once the police had this information in their hands. 

This is not about looking for any window of opportunity, over the period of this evening it is about the window of happening. 

The police did not pick this time frame of alibi, the evidence in itself did so.

Those first statements of Judith and Allen, the similarities in them – his arrival home from his work, of Jodi leaving whilst in the toilet. He did not see her that day.

Timings which would have differed as they were not concocted to try and give false witness on anything.

The police checking this out, Allen seen on CCTV in a petrol station that he had stopped at on his way home, which ties in with his first accounts.

The police take the timing of this visit and drive the route to their house, approx.: time in the loo, this is what established Jodi’s time of leaving. 

Not any guesstimated times, of anyone.

Other factors also no doubt given.

Jodi getting out earlier than expected, that she was going to meet Luke.

Andrina Bryson – did the police think, yes, first timing after 5.30pm, Luke has no claimed alibi at this point. –

No, like everything else, every account of information of whereabouts, the police look for other solid factors to ascertain more accurate times. 

Corinne Mitchell on CCTV in local shop – route driven to estimate time home.

Shane Mitchell also other factors sought to give a more accurate account.

Lorraine Fleming and Rosemary Walsh, boys on the bike, lady going to video shop, boys on the moped, Leonard Kelly on the path.

The search party – multiple accounts from statements and phone records. 

The police did not manipulate all of these, there were sound areas of evidence used. CCTV, bank and till receipts, phone records and so forth. Routes taken and timings ascertained.

Resulting in:

Shane Mitchell not seeing his brother in the house at that time.

A rather neat set of accounts given by Luke and Corrine Mitchell on what happened in that ‘window of opportunity/happening’

For nearly 90mins, a very small window of sightings, in which Luke Mitchell makes himself seen.

He phoned this girls landline, as above because at this point he knows it is he, whom Jodi is supposed to be with.

That her parents know this.

We have a sighting by Andrina Bryson which, once investigated ties in with the time established of Jodi leaving her house.

We have from 4.25 (call to Scotts caravans from the Mitchell landline) until the sighting of the boys on the bike around 5.55pm.

From Andrina Bryson sighting until then we actually have around 60minutes – For this meet, for attack/murder and initial clean up.

Sounds quite different now. Then we have a further substantial amount of time up until 7pm and thereafter for further disposal.

Then we have from 9pm until 11pm. For disposal. 

Whilst there may have been some slim chance of this girls being found, from where she was clearly hidden – there is the timescale of Identification.

Whatever way you look at it – Luke Mitchell had all of this time, over this evening to dispose, clean and so forth. 

To set his story straight – yet it was by these very means, of rather eccentric accounts that drew this suspicion from the off. 
(Original forum post here)

Link to Part 109 here

Killer Luke Mitchell: MORE Abuse By A Proxy Malignant Narcissist & Pretend Criminologist Sandra Lean & More On ‘The Moped Boys’ (Part 107)

*Guest Blog*

I still want to see proof a tool hire employee seen the bike exactly there.

Is that unreasonable?

Lithium

Like James Falconer, it appears this duo were doing one thing only – thinking of themselves.

Whatever dodgy dealings they were up to were their prime concern. 

From the off, trying to distance themselves from this horror.

Scared incase they would find themselves incriminated. 

Coming forward, only when they had to. 

Everything about this duo would have been deciphered and investigated in great detail. For two reasons, to ascertain whether there was anything, feasible to suggest that they had been involved, also, it is part of what has to be done in this process.

The police and prosecution have to try and cover every area. 

This utter nonsense about being eliminated within 48hrs, and before DNA results were back. Bollocks!

The search for this duo, the finding of them, is what was eliminated, like stocky man – the searching was eliminated. – Not the people, until fully investigated. Where does this kind of, pardon the language, shite come from? 

Outwith this time frame, of perhaps 10 minutes that this duo were on this path, before going onto Ladypath, what else was there to confirm their movements for the remainder of that evening – these would have been checked out thoroughly. Every aspect of their behaviour.

The only thing that has come to the fore is John Ferris cutting/hacking (whatever words to emphasize- suspicious) his hair off. 

Shaking whilst watching the news about the appeal for the moped duo? 

Gloves down a radiator with condoms in them – these gloves would have been tested, showing nothing to connect with this crime. Not washed but damp? taking for testing thus not eliminated, being checked out? 

What were the movements of this duo over the course of this evening? 

But you don’t get to hear of these results, of the proper accounts of statements, again just snip bits of this duo claiming to be at x y and z.

What about the people to back this up? the company they were in? 

Not one but two people – who managed to commit this crime in record breaking time of mere minutes, double the odds of leaving no trace, having DNA upon them, double the clean up, more people involved in aiding them.

This girl, by chance, meeting them also – no phone records, nothing to show any meet, from the duos phones, from this girls mothers phone – nothing. 

Nothing at all in this investigation to enable tying these two, into having been responsible. 

Dubious pair of twats! Had run ins with the law before? Knew that suspicion would, perhaps fall upon them, when it was known they were in the locality. Did not trust the police?

MOJ’s – A prime pair of candidates, whom, if there had been more evidence, circumstantial and otherwise – could have been fitted up for this.

IF the aim of the police was to get results, IF there was not clear reason for, Luke Mitchell being responsible. 

Does not matter how many times it is said – this was no easy fit up of a young laddie,

The police did not choose him, because of his age, because they thought it would be easy to break a young smite – they did not choose him – the evidence against him, made this so.  

The fact that Leonard Kelly heard noises behind this wall, prior to this duo being on this path. 

Even IF this duo did stop at the V, even IF they went over this break, for mere minutes –

There is nothing to show that they must have seen/heard/been part of this murder or that it did not take place around this time.

It is pretty evident – that this girl was silenced before this.

It is pretty evident that she was hidden – dense woodland in the height of summer, in an area not frequented – off the beaten track. 

She lay undiscovered over the course of this evening. There were other people about over the course of the evening – kids playing, dog walkers, not many, but none witnessed anything except Leonard Kelly.

The only clear thing this does show – is how quickly this girl was killed. It proves that the attack was not prolonged, it proves that she had little opportunity of time – to make noise, to be heard.

It shows that this path was also far from being like ‘Piccadilly Circus‘.

Users scattered over the evening. 

The only thing that matters, about the claim of someone witnessing this bike, unmanned at the V point, is the locality of this person, having to have been on this path too. 

It appears this was not used at trial? as names would have been mentioned. Nothing else is given of this if true – this person would, if they exist, would no doubt confirm, any noise from before this sighting from the bike, of the bike at a standstill, and afterwards more noise of being restarted. Clearly showing, if true, that the bike had stopped for a fragment of time. They were back in Dickies by 5.30! (originally saying 4.30 because clock being out by an hr?)

Sometimes however – you almost get the impression, that these ‘other‘ witnesses are akin to media ‘sources‘ – handy to use when non existent – to back up futile points, to add weight to nonsense.

To exaggerate the truth in its economical sense.

(Original forum post here)

Link to Part 108 here

Killer Luke Mitchell: Abuse By A Proxy Malignant Narcissist – Pretend Criminologist Sandra Lean (Part 106)

Malignant narcissist Sandra Lean

*Guest Blog*

I find the idea that Jodi’s whole family would be involved in her death a bit hard to swallow

Deadhead

Indeed, it does seem like a stretch too far. But what if, having taken certain decisions and steps, family members found themselves inextricably implicated, so that telling “the truth” would have been virtually impossible.

Let me run a hypothetical line of reasoning here. A male member of Jodi’s extended family has had a run in with Jodi earlier in the day. He also has a history of violence and unpredictable behaviour. (This scenario, in fact, can be applied to various male members of the extended family.)

Mother/Granny later get wind that something has happened between Jodi and this male, as a result of the earlier run in, but at this stage, they are not quite sure what, and don’t, even in their wildest nightmares, imagine the worst. The concern here would be to find Jodi, and “sort it all out” without the involvement of the authorities, since that involvement would mean family male would be in deep trouble.

By the time Jodi has been found, horribly murdered, several members of the family have already been in contact with each other, in order to “sort out” whatever it was they thought had happened – how to now explain that to the authorities?

Then the cops take over, and, almost instantly, set their sights on Luke.

In their shock and disbelief over what has happened to Jodi, the family members can justify their earlier actions to themselves – they were just afraid that one of their own family members had possibly hurt Jodi, but their fears were unfounded, since it was Luke who had done this terrible thing to her.

Jigsawman (GOD) Aka Sandra Lean – 7th April 2010

For the best part of 9 years and more, this poster, Jigsawman (GOD aka Sandra Lean) has had their mind tuned into, this girls family being responsible and complicit for, not only the cover up of their own but the incarceration of sadistic killer Luke Mitchell.

They have been steadfast, in their belief that one mother, inconceivably would aid their child in anyway upon the death of his girlfriend.

A girl whom is not close to her heart, and her son, who had barely been seeing this girl for  3 months.

Yet, upon their reasoning of the evidence – they believe, that not only would the mother of this girl, cover and aid her other child in the murder of her youngest. That the extended family did the very same. It is easy to see why they would come to this conclusion:

For Luke Mitchell to be innocent – then all of the evidence from this family has to be false.

To aid in this complicity, We have further extended people throughout this investigation , whom also aided this family, in this cover up.

The reasoning behind that, for Jigsawman (Aka Sandra Lean) is also very simple – the police chose to treat these two families differently, what could be the reasoning, as to why they should have been treated the same, or  indeed the Jone’s family, with more, justified suspicion, After all:

This is a family of delinquents – The Jones’ (and extended family). The daily trash reader type. Or,

The other family, of middle class, respectability – The Mitchell’s. Reader of the Guardian. 

It is appalling and unbelievable that respectable people like the Mitchells should have their son targeted when the obvious reputation of the Jones’ deserved so much more. 

We don’t need to look at evidence we just need to look at reputation, to hang with everything else. 

The scenario, given above is of the most basic – polite that I have witnessed over these years. You can almost feel the curl of the fingers and picture the grimace upon this posters face, as they try their best, to answer the question from Deadhead – without appearing to directly blame this family. 

This ‘what if’ scenario should really read ————

Indeed, it does seem like a stretch too far” BUT:

Did you know Deadhead, there is a history of violence and unpredictable behaviour that runs rife through the very core and beyond of this family. This family knew something had happened, that this male member had hurt his sister but didn’t know, to what extent. They had already began in their cover up. Hoping to find them both, before things went too far. 

To them it was a blessing, a turn of good fortune for them, that someone else was going to take the rap. It is better to lose one child than two. Easier, to justify themselves for any actions they may take, in helping the police to frame Luke Mitchell.

After all, what did it matter to this other mother, this family had no moral or sense of right, they are that closely connected in deviance – it was easy to get everyone to join forces, It did not matter, the horror in which this young girl met her end neither did the safety of others cause concern.

Their only aim was to protect this male, within this large family circle. Nobody else got a second thought – they happily read the rags, blessed in relief that this wee laddie was getting fitted up and one of their own would be safe??

Does that all seem just a stretch too far – I wonder?

It was ascertained that this girl had left her family home at or around 4.50pm – done by timings of the father getting home from work.

Both this mother and father stated that, the brother was in the house at this time – having dinner. For this male member to be responsible, then this three were lying. Plain and simple.

If at this point they were lying then it stands to reason that this visit to a graveyard was also a lie – were they out looking for this male member? 

They (at the very least the father) were most certainly home when Luke called the landline at 5.38 there was no connection at 5.32. Were they out at his point too looking – from the father getting home?

There obviously at this point was no dinner together, all lies?

Where did they go to look, who did they phone?

I would presume at this point, there has been several calls, consistently being made to this male members phone, from his mother and father? 

Calls also to various other family members, in their search for both Jodi and her brother, from the father getting home, from Jodi going out and throughout the course of the evening?

That is, if of course, Jodi did not leave the house at all until much later.

This of course takes away any sightings, so safe to assume she had left, by at least 5.30.

This family, now by this stage and for several hours, several of them are still trying to locate this brother and sister. 

They have to quickly put a plan into action – just incase their worst fear comes to pass.

The mother plays it cool.

She texts Luke’s phone – telling her daughter to get home, She knows her daughter isn’t with Luke, its all a ploy to protect the brother.

Luke phones her back, she fakes concern. 

There is no frantic call to the granny – the granny already knows the concern about this brother and sister.

Now I’m stuck.

The family want to get this all sorted without the involvement of the authorities“?

Why did the mother phone the police at this point? 

Simple really. The plan had already been hatched, the call to the police was their first point in the cover up, for this male member? 

Is everyone thinking the same as me here? Where actually at this point, is this male member?
Has he still been out the whole of the evening, previous efforts to trace and look for him, fell flat?

So they actually dont know where he is, takes us back to, why call the police? they still havent traced him?

Which takes us onto present day events?

Corinne Mitchell infers heavily that the search party are looking for someone else, not Jodi? maybe both still?

Sandra Lean has the search party at the top of this path prior to 11pm?

They are tying the two together?
They could not possibly have been on the path, if they had just found out Jodi was missing, just after 10.40pm?

Yet, of course there are two people missing, the inference still to this day that the family were searching for both?

So, Alice Walker, Steven Kelly, Judith Jones, Allen Ovens and Janine Jones all at this point have concocted their story?

Alice Walker wants to re check this path, not because Luke checked with his feet, but she is determined to find Joey Jones and Jodi, she is not worried her grandaughter may have hurt herself, she is worried that Joey Jones may have hurt her? 

So again at this point – Where was Joey Jones? when did he turn up?

The answer to this of course is very simple, he was in his house, he went with his mother and father to this path when Luke made the discovery. 

For some unknown reason?? – this appears to have been lost along the way, I wonder why?

Discussed many times on the Fact or Fiction (Colin Bowman’s: Luke Mitchell Fact & Myth) site along with others, it would not suit purpose for this to be reminded?

‘Psychology student’ Colin Bowman

Read more on ‘psychology student’ Colin Bowman (Aka Bobbiedog) in Part 18a of The Truth Behind Killer Simon Hall & His Enablers #InnocenceFraud Phenomenon Scam ongoing blog series and Part 23 of this blog series by tapping on the links below;

It rather sullies, this speculation of searching for him on this path?

So whilst this search trio, arrived at this path looking for Joey Jones he was in his house, why were they looking?

Judith Jones forget to mention this to them, or had they not become part of this concocted plan by then? 

Did Judith Jones and Allen Ovens let them lead a merry dance of worry, whilst they helped Joey Jones in this cover up? 

So it appears Joey Jones in all his mental health problems is in police company from an early point of this enquiry?

Yet, however. In those first interviews from the family, these immediate members did not mention any altercations with this sister and brother.

This mother and father, gave an account, that must have been so far reached, yet did not raise questions of suspicion from the police.

That Alice Walker, Steven Kelly and Judith Jones also gave statements, concocted to the extreme, that these too, did not bring suspicion upon them.

Instead the police found suspicion in Luke Mitchell, Corinne Mitchell and Shane Mitchell’s statements. 

Could that very first statement from Shane Mitchell, in its vague account of events have drawn suspicion.

We have a mother, giving indepth detail about Shane Mitchell in relation to the dinner – in contrast from Shane Mitchell there was nothing. He could not remember.

They could not wait until further questioning – he was urged by his mother, to return to the police station, to give the account his mother had put forward. 

So, yes Deadhead, it appears it is far easier, to disprove all of this families evidence, that they had, from early in that evening, set out to try and defuse some family altercation, between these two siblings.

That they some how managed to fool the investigating team, involve immediate and extended family into this cover up. That there would of course be proof in abundance, should the need arise to show this.

The first basic thing being phone records – which in total contrast, would not I imagine, show quite substantial calls, from many parties to this males phone? Perhaps, even then, in this early cover up, they chose not to make calls – they knew these would be checked? So what exactly did they do, to find this missing couple??

There is much more as we go onto other suspects.

What is evident, to this point and to this day, that this poster, Jigsawman (GOD aka Sandra Lean) had indepth knowledge of this case.

That from very early in this case, they had drawn the conclusion of A another being the killer. This somehow appears to have warped their sense of all reason, upon actual evidence to suggest this.

Not every crime is about (circumstantial) DNA it is about so much more.

What we do have, is a case that shows, a clear sequence of events that firmly puts Luke Mitchell as being the person responsible. 

There is clearly, no clear sequence of events that puts any of this girls family members, anywhere close.

You simply can’t take part of one person, Steven Kelly, with nothing else to back this up, tie it in with parts of Joey Jones, again with nothing else, onto James Falconer and Gordon Dickie and similarly tie them in with nothing else.

There are no sequence of events, there was nothing in this investigation that could clearly point to these others. 

We have the DNA of Steven Kelly, we have the locality of the duo on the bike, we have the health problems of Joey Jones – in this we have other behavioural problems amongst them. 

One thing is clear though – to involve any of these people directly – it does point to a much larger attempt at conspiracy and complicity. Not just 3 people, as was, with the Mitchells. 

3 of these people were before this Jury – it is clear that the above poster (Sandra Lean) feels the brother should have been too?

For what purpose, I ask again? Does that make the system fairer, if we were to drag others in, simply to cause diversion of thought with a Jury, when there is no evidence for doing so? 

It has been shown clearly, that whilst there may be mitigating, aspects of these people, DNA, locality and behavioural problems. All known to the police whilst this investigation was ongoing

It has been shown clearly, that if the police were looking to fit someone up – there were far more likely and easier candidates to pursue.

Throughout this investigation – the suspicion that fell upon this laddie, from the onset only grew stronger. 

The stumbling blocks that were met, the difficulty no doubt of elimination, especially when one member of this families DNA was clearly present. 

Did not sway the police, in whom they believed was clearly responsible

They did not simply ‘have it in‘ for this laddie – there were clear reasons from which this supicion was warrented.

They did not toss some bloody coin, as one poster once commented – heads or tails, you’ll do, lets make up some shit?

This utter disbelief in the evidence against him. the time frame and everything amidst it.

What I wonder, if one day this laddie was to admit his guilt – would these conclusions then draw

That indeed, all was possible. No.

What will be said is:
So what! he still shouldn’t have been found guilty on the evidence produced. 

This wasn’t some flimsy circumstantial case, there was nothing, clearly that pointed to this crime being committed by A another.

We all can be proven wrong. He may very well, turn out to innocent – stranger things have happened. 

What should not happen, is the release on some technicality, of something wrong in law.

It should only happen, if one day, there is clear and precise evidence that A another did commit this crime. 

At this point and throughout these years – there has been nothing to show this. 

Not once ever, has there been any reality in how this laddie was – from the pro-innocence camp.

The weight put upon this ‘goth‘ and Manson fanatic, debate as to why this laddie was found guilty, not only by trial by media – by trial itself.

Used to distract away from the real evidence.

For me and many others – there is clarity in trophies, keeping things close, akin to the crime committed.

There was another knife purchased, likened to one that could have caused these injuries.

Readily at hand, from the one disposed of.

A knife reappearing after this house had been thoroughly searched. In a bag under dog bowls – the dog meat, in the bowls, itself searched?

There was a CD purchased, free or not from a magazine that showed the horrific death, by a bladed instrument of a girl in the woods.

There was another jacket purchased, in likeness to the one supposed missing. 

The pouch of this new knife was inscribed by insane writing. Done at a point when this laddie thought it was safe.

These items, keeping this horrific murder, close at heart.

(Original forum post here)

Link to Part 107 here